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List Of CHRISTIAN VOYAGES TO AMERICA.......

On Aug 6, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Don Greene wrote:

May I be so bold as to pin down a few dates in the current era, i.e. after the birth of Christ, which might all tie in with the European-Christian presence in North America?

c100 AD: The Carthaginians are trading along the Atlantic and Gulf Coast

Hebrews (or Christians?) fleeing Roman persecution following a rebellion sail out of the Mediterranean, ending up on the Ohio, Kanawha, Cumberland and Tennessee rivers

c135 AD: Another group of Hebrew-Christians leave the Middle East headed for the New World, following their predecessors but going further to Indiana, Illinois and Missouri

c200 AD: Celts of some sort are living in colonies among the natives everywhere from the Atlantic seaboard to the Mississippi, including the St. Lawrence, the Susquehanna, the Ohio and Missouri River valleys

c300 AD: Hebrew-Christian colonists have penetrated as deep as New Mexico

c500 AD Christian Celtics sail from Morocco fleeing the Vandals, sailing to the land they call Asqua Samai or the Great Northern Land.

Christian Libyans are present in Mexico

Christian Celts are present in West Virginia

c734 AD: We know that several shiploads of Spanish Christians, including six bishops, men and women sailed beyond the Atlantic to the land they called Antilles.

c800 AD: Hebrew colonists penetrated as deeply as Arizonia, after arriving originally on the southeastern Atlantic coast.

c900 AD: As the pagan Norse invade Iceland, the Christians Celts flee to Greenland and beyond to their Western colonies

984 AD: As the pagan Norse move on to Greenland the Christian Celts there move on to the Western colonies where
there some had already fled circa 900

c1000 AD: We know from the Sagas that when the

Norse came here they meet Celtic/Irish Christians living among the native people. The Norse even captured two of the Irish children.

As invaders from Europe move into Wales, many of the Christian Welsh sail off into the Atlantic, headed for the land Across the Western Seas that they call Avalon



1,053 AD: The First bishop of the Christian Diocese on this continent sails off [from Greenland} and is not heard from again.

These Christians included Danish that had settled in Ireland before fleeing across the Atlantic to escape invaders from the east.

By 1,076 the Norse show their Vinland colony on all maps but also show a Scot colony called Albania and an Irish nation called Greater Ireland, which seems to indicate that they knew there substantial populations of the other two here.

The failure to mention the Welsh may simply be due to the Norse not encountering or having any trade with the.

1,121 AD: The Second Bishop to the Western diocese sails off into the Atlantic.

1,170 AD: Prince Madoc leads at least three shiploads of Norse-Welsh to the Gulf Coast with another group entering the Mississippi and apparently traveling as far north as the Falls of the Ohio at Louisville.

c1,200 AD: A series of stone structures are built by apparent Welsh colonists from AL & GA across TN-KY to IL & MO.

1,250 AD: Bjorn of Iceland is driven to the east coast of America and meets horse-riding Celts of Greater Ireland.

C 1,250 AD: The Norse of Greenland established Norumbege in the New England States only shortly before the Little Ice Age sets begins in Europe and the North Atlantic.

Traders and colonists from West Africa nations were present in the Caribbean, Gulf Coast and Mexico

c1,300 AD: There are an estimated 3,000 to 6,000 Norse living in or near the colony of Norumbege, which includes 280 known farms, 17 Catholic churches and one cathedral that leave records of tithes paid, taxes levied and travels expenses.

1,346-51 AD: The bubonic Plague sweeps the North Atlantic, killing thousands upon thousands on both sides of the Atlantic as well as Iceland and Greenland

1,347 AD: The last recorded shipload of timber leave Norumbege for the east, Iceland or Ireland.

1,350 AD: The 4000 Norse in Greenland depart for America, walking across the ice, perhaps to try to escape the Plague as much as anything.

1350 AD: Which brings us to the Lenape.

There are many more points to be added to this that have some relevance on the discussion; migrations, epidemics, droughts and such.

Christ that also have some relevancy but I won't go into those right now.
There is evidence of many migrations, trade and commerce between our Old Ones and the societies of Mexico that can be revealed at another time.

Likewise there is evidence of other contacts (non-Christian) that I will be factoring in as well, including the centuries Before Christ.

There are as many if not more points from Before the Birth of


The jest of my message is that it would appear that the Natives of North America were already a melting pot that had absorbed many European, Mediterranean type people in the centuries before the walk across the ice by the Norse. I am certain it all ties together and has some impact on the native society that existed in 1492.

We are all part of the team that is seeking the real truth about the times before 1492.

To me our Old Ones are real people; living in a world vastly more complicated than the education system has taught and has been perpetuated even by the current Native peoples.

Though it is not the end-all of my discourse, I do feel for certain that there have been Christian people here almost as long as there have been Christians in Europe or even the Middle East.

Please bear with me

Niawe chine paselo

Chief Don Spirit Wolf Greene